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Re: Belgian Radar-Visual

From: Christophe Meessen <>
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 13:22:37 +0100
Fwd Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 10:10:55 -0500
Subject: Re: Belgian Radar-Visual

>Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 18:56:01 +0100 (MET)
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <>
>From: Henny van der Pluijm <>
>Subject: Re: UFO UpDate: Re: Belgian Radar-Visual

>Christophe also said:

>'My father proposed an explanation for all radar related


Yes we have to remain modest in front of this case. It could be a
natural phenomenon or it could be a UFO or a mixture of both
phenomenon. Since the problem is undecidable we can spend years
in this endless discussion.


>'So to me what happened in Belgium these two years remain an
>unsolved mystery and the proposed explanation for radar evidence
>hardly scratch the mystery.'

>>But Henny persists:

>>>Remember my remarks about a triangular object that had been
>>>witnessed at the exact same spot where the F16s detected the
>>>erratic signal?

>Which would explain the mystery better than any other

Sorry. But I can't let this pass. According to the second book on
the Belgian UFO flap that discusses visual contact data closely,
there is no triangular object reported where the F16 detected the
erratic signal.

Henny, it is really sad you can't read the two articles.
This would clarify a lot of points.

>>Yes, but see above. And did the eyewitnesses report the UFO
>>performing the same merry capers as appeared on the radar? I
>>think not.

There was no ground visual contacts beside moving lights. Lights
were more in intense wobbling than moving fast from side to side
of the sky. It was though a very uncommon light behaviors which
suggested it was not stars. But lights did not show extraordinary
displacements as would the UFO speed estimation based on the F16
recording yield.

I wish this discussion returns to a wise and rational ground.

Henny, It would be a mistake to put into question the whole
Belgian UFO flap and the 2000 testimonies simply because we have
to discard the F16 evidence.

Some skeptics and the belgian defense minister officially did so,
but this is an error. Who cares what people say. We are
conducting an investigation, we are totally free and we are all
searching the truth whatever the path we take.

We have to respect any working hypothesis one choose as starting
point to do his investigation as long as he remains OBJECTIVE and

So we HAVE TO drop the F16 data as EVIDENCE of the presence of a
UFO simply because it COULD be a natural phenomenon.

We are searching evidences and we only have evidences when we can
discard any rational explanation. Spending more time on defending
or attacking this case is  loosing your time and energy. What you
can do though is check the argumentation  concluding to a
possible natural phenomenon.

It might have been a UFO, but we will never now for sure now. It
is bad news for everybody, even for the skeptics, because we can
always say it might still have been a UFO.

Happily the Belgian UFO flap has plenty more valuable testimonies
and there are still many people who didn't testified for various

Bien cordialement,


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